Posts Tagged ‘Muslim’

Florida Republican hosts Anti-Islam Summit

April 28, 2009

This is some Orwellian dickery.  Florida Republican Representative Adam Hasner hosted the “Free Speech Summit” over the weekend where a keynote speaker demanded that the Koran be outlawed and that religious freedom should not include Islam.  Hasner also left the House chamber during a Muslim prayer on Monday.

Hasner invited Chair of the Parliamentary Party of The Netherlands Geert Wilders to speak at his “Free Speech Summit.”  At the event, Wilders said that Islam was not a true religion, that the Koran calls for hatred and terrorism, and that free speech should not apply to Muslims.  Here is the video:

Hasner also showed Wilders’ movie FITNA at the summit and applauded its Anti-Islam message.

Wilders is a devoted Catholic and apparently hasn’t read the portion of the Bible where God tells Aaron to slaughter every Canaanite in sight.   The good people of Florida need to get rid of Hasner.  He clearly hates the founding principles of this country.

RWP Rating: Bizarre

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Is the United States a Christian Nation?

April 7, 2009

What is a Christian nation?

This is a hell of a question to start out this debate.  But it’s the only way that we’ll make any kind of headway.  We have to define our terms before we set out or we’ll just end up in a game of semantics.

I think the best way of answering this is by comparing the United States to other nations around the world.  For example, clearly the United States is more influenced by Christianity than The Netherlands.  We have laws against incest and (in some states) sodomy because of our Christian influence.

However, a nation that is influenced by a group of people doesn’t mean that it is founded on their principles.  For example, would we say that the United States is a White nation?  Of course not.  In fact, that’s a great way of getting your ass kicked.  Even though the founding documents were written by white people, we do not consider ourselves a White nation.

What is a Muslim Nation?

A Muslim nation is a nation where Sharia (Islamic law) is enforced.   Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Yemen all enforce Sharia law.  In these communities, religious law is civil and criminal law.  Often, beards must be worn at certain lengths and women must cover their bodies completely or they will face criminal charges from the state.

What about our history?

So do we enforce the Ten Commandments in the Bible?  Have we ever?  The answer is yes and no.  During the days of the Puritans, the United States was a much different country.  Witches were burned at the stake and adulterers were made to bear the infamous A.  But these laws were a distortion of our Constitution.

The First Amendment of the Constitution reads:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Pretty clearly stated.  Our founding fathers escaped religious persecution to establish this nation.  The last thing they wanted to do was create a country that made all the same mistakes their homeland did.  Even though certain communities did adopt some Christian law into their governing arsenal, it turned out pretty terribly.  I think you’ll find few people willing to defend the Salem Witch Trials.

What about the law?

The Christian law never changes.  It was written in the books of the Bible 2000 years ago and there have been few amendments to it since.  However, our founding fathers purposely established this country in a way so that laws could change.  At the will of the people, through their representatives in Congress, we can change the laws by which we live.

Pound of Flesh?

Pound of Flesh?

The founding fathers knew the Bible.  Many of them were Christian.  But they purposely did not establish Christian law as United States law.   Even though many were devout Christians, the governing principles of the nation were purposely establish with no religion in mind.  Even though God/Creator/Supreme Judge is mentioned in some of our founding documents, there is no mention of biblical law or Jesus.

What about the faith of the founding fathers?

Many of the founding fathers were Christians and others were not.  Thomas Jefferson famously ripped every page out of the Bible that involved Jesus doing any type of miracle.  He believed that the supernatural aspects of the Bible distorted the moral teachings.  Jefferson even penned a new ending: rather than Jesus resurrecting from the dead, he is buried in the ground.

We cannot act like our founding fathers spoke in a unified voice.  There was dissension, there were disagreements.  I’m sure many of them thought that we should found a Christian nation.  However, that is not what they gave us.  They gave us a democratic republic.  A democratic republic where the will of the people reigned supreme and not the laws of their former homeland.

Fox Nation attempts to smear Obama

Fox Nation attempts to smear Obama

Conclusion

It’s easy for commentators on Fox News to say we are a Christian nation because we were founded by mostly Christian people.   But it’s not a debate that can take place in the 3-minute rush zone of a TV studio.  We have to address the issue from many facets, define our terms, and somehow explain the rich history of our nation.  The United States may be a nation of Christians, but it was not founded as a Christian nation.